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PostSubject: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 28th 2010, 9:03 am

Hi guys,

this is my first post, and all im after are some opinions, on what would be my first ever build.

Ive had an idea for a xiphoid style baton, the idea being that it is conceled in the sleeve.
now the idea im toying with at the moment, is retracting the baton with a motorised reel.

so:
-baton extends like most xiphoids, using a spring loaded mechinism
-baton locks
-baton is retracted using cable and electric reel.

below is a VERY rough MSpaint drawn concept.(sorry about imgshack couldnt upload any other way)
any input would be great, as far as tips, thoughts and ideas from you guys (the experts)

so thanks in advance!
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 28th 2010, 9:29 am

just had a thought to extend/retract with a motor.

still after any feedback.
cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 28th 2010, 2:26 pm

I like it, but it would be really tricky building a motor like that unless you used one from somewhere else. And, that motor would have to be pretty useful to justify the extra space and battery.
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 28th 2010, 3:43 pm

I think this is a good idea man, good job. I'd like to see the "product." xiphoid
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 28th 2010, 7:18 pm

thanks guys, im a long way from building it as im way to busy at work currently. but if it gets up and running you'll be first to know
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 29th 2010, 2:41 am

A couple problems with your design, bro. Nothing major. I've used a lot of police batons and worked with them throughout my childhood, and I own a couple myself.
-There's no locking mechanism shown.
-You should probably have more than one section of the baton, because with that length it dousn't seem like you would be able to affectivly hit anything with it. In fact, I would have the actuall baton extend out on a shaft. The two are connected by a circular hinge. that way when the shaft extends, the baton will be at your hand, you'll have the freedom to move it with your wrist. Sorry if it's hard to explain, I'll try to get a sketch done and upload it. Cool?

Looks cool, probably gunna have to build one myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 29th 2010, 4:10 am

yeah i see what you're saying there, thankfully its a rough idea,haha.
im actually considering having the batons seperate (escrima sticks or the like) and having the xiphoid part more of a holder/extender for the baton to be grabbed out of. if that makes any sense.

feedback makes me want to start on it now, but alas i have neither time nor funds

thanks for the input, any more muchly welcomed.
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 29th 2010, 7:06 am

abballa wrote:
yeah i see what you're saying there, thankfully its a rough idea,haha.
im actually considering having the batons seperate (escrima sticks or the like) and having the xiphoid part more of a holder/extender for the baton to be grabbed out of. if that makes any sense.

feedback makes me want to start on it now, but alas i have neither time nor funds

thanks for the input, any more muchly welcomed.

Yeah I get it. You know what would be pretty cool? A pop-out tonfa. Haha that'd be sick.

Anyway, about the locking mech?
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 29th 2010, 8:29 am

yeah admittedly i avoided that question, im not too sure, I\'ll have to rethink it.
i saw an interesting design using a CD drive, so maybe I\'ll look at that, extends retracts with touch of a button.
ive got a bunch of old drives i can play with...
too many things to think about this time of night.
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 29th 2010, 8:40 am

Haha I know right? I shouldn't be up this late. Or... early, as it is.

You could make it friction held, like most extendable batons do.
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 29th 2010, 11:28 am

Or you could just have the baton tethered, so that it pops out in your hand and basically dangles at the end of the cord. That gives you all the degrees of freedom you need to manipulate it, and to retract it, you pull the cord (either manually, by a spring-loaded mech, or electrically). That seems easiest to me...
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PostSubject: Re: Xiphoid Baton after some feedback   Xiphoid Baton after some feedback Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2010, 5:15 am

yeah i was thinking that at work last night, it would make for much easier use.

also friction locking is a decent idea, i hadnt considered that.
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