Ironically, I ran across this today...


The description on CollectorsEdge.com says this is a fixed blade. However looking at the way it has been constructed, it looks like a fixed blade prop of a retractable bladed movie weapon. I actually haven't seen the movie, so I am not sure if that is the case or not, but I thought the twin carrier rail approach was interesting, though possibly prone to binding. This is definitely going on my blog at some point, but thought It'd be cool to share here... :)

Phyreblade

Don't take this the wrong way buddy, but if I could hug you I would!

Dude! This is SWEET!

I'm buying it, says that they will be available end of next month and we just got our Xmas bonus, I'm BUYING IT!!! $150...Mine!!!!

If it won't retract I'll take it apart and rework it. I've thought about rails, but I'll be honest and say I do more thinking than building.

This looks like it really could be something that we could work off of and take some design ideas from.

AS SOON as they are available I'll get one and we'll review it. Blade, you just made my day!

Here's a little somethin'somethin' for you, I know how you are about ninjas.




You always find the coolest stuff!!!

Sinza

I couldn't help myself, I had to fiddle with it and see what it looked like closed. Little time in paint and I came up with this.



Now it's really easy to see how it all works. The lever that runs up the side makes the back rod pivot, which lifts the hook. This allows the springs on the sides to pull the blade assembly forward. I don't yet see how it locks open. Nice design, a little bulky, but over all A+. It gives me all kinds of ideas on how to streamline it more and change the opening lever.

Yet again only one way. I would assume you just pull it back manually by grabbing the slider part of the blade assembly slide back until the hook catches.

I can't wait until I can get one!! Now i'm going to have to draw up some redesigns for this model too.

LOL Dude... You crack me up...

Sinza came from Ninja? That's just priceless...

I have another version of this ninja pic, except with a different background, but this one looks cooler. THX!!

Nice work on the Saw blade photochop btw. I was thinking the rails were a bit short, but it was hard to be sure from the pic. Yeah, it's one way, very cool lever activated latch too, though not very safe! And given that this is a prop, they may not have bothered with a blade locking mechanism for when it's open. However, that should be easy to fix, and either way, they have provided an interesting platform to work with. It's the first time I've seen this particular design. Definitely post up when you get it! Should be fun...

Blade

Im simply amazed that they would actually sell something like this to the public. they must be half stupid to think noone is going to modify this to be used fully.

But hey! at least they show basically how it works. im happy about that.

i cant find the link to the page where its being sold. can someone post it please?

Bad news: The SAW Gauntlet blade is not going to be sold by Collectors Edge.

It was gone so I asked and here's the email I got.

"This particular item have been taken off from our website because we can not order it from our supplier. They stop the productions of it for unknown reasons. We do not of any other company beside us that was going to have this item available."


They had to make a few and they need to sell those somewhere. Keep your eyes open guys, I want one of these things!!

I still haven't found one of the props for sale...I know I will some day!! But I found this!!

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This is a beautiful, limited edition, poster of the original blueprints. ***** The second picture listed is of the original blueprints with the original Stiletto device sitting on top of the blueprints. ***** I was in charge of the Mechanical Special Effects for the movie " SAW ". After meeting with the director [ James Wan ] and writer [ Leigh Whannell ] we came up with this HIDDEN SPRING LOADED ARM STILETTO for the character JIGSAW to have up his sleeve.. THE metal one in the second picture is the original used by the actor in the original movie "SAW". Its what he used to cut Danny Glovers characters throat with. So many SAW fans and horror prop collectors have asked in the past few years if I would build another one for their collection, I declined. When collectors saw the blueprints they asked if I would sell them too. It just didn't seem right to let one person with big bucks get my originals or print hundreds of thousands on cheap paper and sell them in every store that sells posters, so we came up with this. These are beautiful 24"x36", high quality posters. ****THERE ARE ONLY 96 AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME...THIS IS A FIRST EDITION**** UNLIKE my other blueprints *****THESE ARE NOT SIGNED OR NUMBERED, THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT PRICED EQUALLY****

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The one I'm getting is the colored aged one, I'd like to get a copy of the clean one. So I enlarged it.


??????? ....It's different... A lot different...This looks like it was built around a drawer slide. The rails and the release hook are also different.
As soon as I get my copy I'll let you guys know what I learn from it. Wish it showed it closed.

SWEET!!...

Maannn... it is really different... And the rails look really funky... Don't actually see why you'd need both drawer slides and rails though. Nice find nonetheless!!! Can't wait to see the tear down...

Q: Hi Tom ! Nice Work ! I wanted to ask you if the actual knife prop can be built from your Blueprint? Mar-09-08

A: Hi. If your really good with your hands, yes. The blade was shaped with a sanding belt, then a buffing wheel. The other parts were mostly shelf items. Springs, steel rod, a draw glide, and a shin guard the only other thing fabricated besides the blade was the hook mechanism and thumb trigger. Thanks. Tommy B.

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So...from the mouth of the man who made the original....
Someone had asked him this question so I figured I'd place this here. I have e-mailed him, he is the one coming out with the fixed bladed version. He said they are held up at the moment. I'm trying to get more info.

I ordered the bluprint, so it should be here in a week or so. Looks like I get #1...I know it's not numbered, but I was the first to order one.

OK, I'm getting a itch to build another one of these, but a real nice one. I have some blades ordered. I'll be making my own leather gauntlet, lace up the outside forearm. Thinking about putting a spike and one of the magic flamethrowers into the design too.

But here's what I wanted to throw out there....I'm doing drawings and I'll be building a really nice version soon, in a few weeks.
I'd like to see any other ideas you guys have to make this better or better looking. I want to cover the blade when retracted, so it will have a box/case of some sorts.

What I'm thinking is this...look at all the crazy fantasy weapons out there... something with that kind of design.
What would this look like if Kitt Rae designed it? I'll have to go back over all the crazy stuff on Phyreblades blog and steal some design elements.

bad ass! i've descided to ditch assassin's crred and make a simple over the arm xiphoid just like this one. i have a blade and once i get plans and equipment i'll be fixed up this is sickk!! i have a few ideas for the extioir, do you want me to scan some sketches? i warn you i'm no artist...

SINZA wrote:What I'm thinking is this...look at all the crazy fantasy weapons out there... something with that kind of design.
What would this look like if Kitt Rae designed it? I'll have to go back over all the crazy stuff on Phyreblades blog and steal some design elements.

LOL ok, so i'm like the idea of sleeker, meaner Saw blade... But resorting to Kit Rae? I donno man... It's blasphemy. In fact...

This is Madness!

SINZA wrote:Madness...? I AM SINZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

ROFL!!!! Ok, ok... Actually I'd think a toned down Kit Rae design would be tres cool...

Phyreblade wrote:

This is Madness!

SINZA wrote:Madness...? I AM SINZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

I said that???. ..ok...What I ment was something with a little detail added to it.
Maybe a little engravng, some nice material on the 'box'....just some ways to make it look nice.
I'm just looking at the different ways sword handles are done and trying to apply that to a wrist case.

Alternate Names:T. 'Brooklyn' Bellisimo / T. Brooklyn Bellisimo / Tommy Bellisimo / T. 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo / T. Brooklyn Bellissimo / Thomas Bellissimo / Tom L. Bellissimo / Tommy 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo / Tommy L. Bellissimo / Tommy Bellissimo / Tom Bellissimo

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Out of all my trophy props its one of my favorites. I have - Sex Machines "Dick Gun" from Dusk Till Dawn, Jasons Mask signed, Leather Faces Mask signed, jim Cary mask from The Mask signed, Jigsaws arm Stiletto , And On & On all screen used. But there is only one Reverse Bear Trap screen used. I am coming out with a Very limited Edition of the Reverse Bear Trap molded in foam rubber. Its not only very detailed, its wearable.-Tommy B.

Filmography


Special Effects:
License to Wed (2007) (special effects director)
Saw (2004) (special effects supervisor) (as Tom Bellissimo)
"Carnivàle" (special effects supervisor: reshoot) (1 episode, 2003)
... aka Feria ambulante, La (USA: Spanish title)
- Milfay (2003) TV episode (special effects supervisor: reshoot) (as T. 'Brooklyn' Bellisimo)
Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle (2003) (special effects foreman: second unit)
Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd (2003) (special effects coordinator)
Shade (2003/I) (special effects coordinator) (as T. Brooklyn Bellissimo)
Bandits (2001) (special effects coordinator) (as T. 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo)
The Hollywood Sign (2001) (special effects coordinator)
... aka Himmel von Hollywood, Der (Germany)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (2001) (special effects co-coordinator)
What Lies Beneath (2000) (special effects supervisor) (as T. Brooklyn Bellisimo)
Blood on the Backlot (2000) (special effects supervisor)


"V.I.P." (special effects coordinator) (18 episodes, 1998-1999) (special effects) (5 episodes, 1999)
... aka V.I.P. - Die Bodyguards (Germany)
- Why 2 Kay (1999) TV episode (special effects)
- Stop or Val's Mom Will Shoot (1999) TV episode (special effects)
- Dr. StrangeVal (1999) TV episode (special effects)
- Big Top Val (1999) TV episode (special effects)
- Return of the Owl (1999) TV episode (special effects)
(18 more)
House on Haunted Hill (1999) (special effects supervisor) (as T. Brooklyn Bellissimo)
Resurrection (1999) (special effects coordinator: second unit, Los Angeles)
Dogma (1999) (special effects coordinator)
It Came from the Sky (1999) (TV) (special effects supervisor) (as Tom Bellissimo)
... aka Visiteurs impromtus, Les (Canada: French title)
American History X (1998) (special effects supervisor) (as Tom Bellissimo)
Almost Heroes (1998) (special effects coordinator) (as Tommy 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo)
Jackie Brown (1997) (effects coordinator: Bellissimo/Belardinelli Effects Inc.) (as T. 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo)
Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed (1997) (TV) (special effects)
Double Tap (1997) (special effects supervisor)
Mad Dog Time (1996) (key special effects) (as Tom Bellissimo)
... aka Trigger Happy (UK)
Set It Off (1996) (special effects) (as Tom Bellissimo)
The Winner (1996) (special effects) (as Tommy Bellisimo)
Bulletproof (1996) (special effects coordinator) (as T. Brooklyn Bellissimo)
A Face to Die For (1996) (TV) (special effects coordinator) (as Tom L. Bellissimo)
... aka The Face (UK: video title)
From Dusk Till Dawn (1996) (mechanical effects coordinator) (as T. 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo)
Angus (1995) (special effects)
... aka Angus - Voll Cool (Germany)
Separate Lives (1995) (special effects coordinator) (as Tommy Bellisimo)
"Tales from the Crypt" (special effects coordinator) (19 episodes, 1991-1995) (special effects) (6 episodes, 1991-1994)
... aka HBO's Tales from the Crypt
- Comes the Dawn (1995) TV episode (special effects coordinator) (as Tommy 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo)
- Surprise Party (1994) TV episode (special effects)
- Staired in Horror (1994) TV episode (special effects coordinator) (as Tom Bellissimo)
- The Assassin (1994) TV episode (special effects coordinator) (as Tom Bellissimo)
- Half-Way Horrible (1993) TV episode (special effects)
(20 more)
A Dangerous Affair (1995) (TV) (special effects coordinator) (as Tom Bellissimo)
Jailbreakers (1994) (TV) (special effects coordinator)
Shake, Rattle and Rock! (1994) (TV) (special effects coordinator)
Girls in Prison (1994) (TV) (special effects coordinator) (as Tommy 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo)
Motorcycle Gang (1994) (TV) (special effects coordinator) (as Tommy Bellisimo)
Confessions of a Sorority Girl (1994) (TV) (special effects coordinator) (as Tommy 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo)
... aka Confessions of Sorority Girls (USA: video title)
The Mask (1994) (special effects coordinator)
Once in a Lifetime (1994) (TV) (special effects) (as Tom Bellissimo)
... aka Danielle Steel's Once in a Lifetime (USA: complete title)
Reform School Girl (1994) (TV) (special effects coordinator)
The Criminal Mind (1993) (special effects)
Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday (1993) (mechanical effects)
... aka Friday the 13th IX
Black Widow Murders: The Blanche Taylor Moore Story (1993) (TV) (special effects)
Pump Up the Volume (1990) (special effects) (as Thomas Bellissimo)
... aka Plein volume (Canada: French title)
... aka Y a-t-il une vie après le lycée? (Canada: French title)
Far Out Man (1990) (special effects coordinator)
... aka Soul Man II


Wait Until Spring, Bandini (1989) (special effects technician) (as Tom Bellissimo)
... aka Aspetta primavera Bandini (Italy)
... aka Bandini
... aka John Fante's Wait Until Spring, Bandini
... aka Ragioni del cuore, Le (Italy)
Far from Home (1989) (special effects) (as Thomas Bellissimo)
"Werewolf" (special effects) (1 episode, 1987)
- The Black Ship (1987) TV episode (special effects)

Stunts:
Set It Off (1996) (stunts) (as Tommy L. Bellissimo)
Four Rooms (1995) (stunts) (as Tom Bellissimo)
Jailbreakers (1994) (TV) (stunts) (as Tom Bellissimo)
Shake, Rattle and Rock! (1994) (TV) (stunts) (as Tom Bellissimo)
Girls in Prison (1994) (TV) (stunts) (as Tom Bellissimo)
Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday (1993) (stunts) (as Tom Bellissimo)
... aka Friday the 13th IX

Actor:
"V.I.P." .... Gang Punk (1 episode, 1999)
... aka V.I.P. - Die Bodyguards (Germany)
- Mudslide Val (1999) TV episode .... Gang Punk
American History X (1998) (as Tommy L. Bellissimo) .... Cop #2

Make-Up Department:
Pulp Fiction (1994) (special makeup effects artist) (as Tom Bellissimo)

Self:
Hacking Away at 'Saw' (2005) (V) (as Tom Bellissimo) .... Himself
Hollywood Goes to Hell (2000) (TV) (as T. 'Brooklyn' Bellissimo) .... Himself

E-Bay SAW Arm Blade Blueprints

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Come on!!! This is what you guys want!!! $40!!! ...12 hours and counting...

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SINZA wrote:

Phyreblade wrote:

This is Madness!

SINZA wrote:Madness...? I AM SINZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

I said that???. ..ok...What I ment was something with a little detail added to it.
Maybe a little engravng, some nice material on the 'box'....just some ways to make it look nice.
I'm just looking at the different ways sword handles are done and trying to apply that to a wrist case.

LOL No, you didn't say that sinzman... Just a little creative quote tag editing... LOL I thought it would be more dramatic... LOL I feel you though, it's always nice to have a weapon with some aesthetic appeal...

And what is this "Reverse bear trap" Bellisimo is talking about?

It's one of the torture traps from the SAW movies. Basically when a timer runs out it opens up ripping your mouth/head apart.
I'll send you some pics of what Tommy B had on his ebay page. There was a $100 blueprint of this device you could buy. I'm glad the armblade designs were only $30. I guess my blueprint comes with a picture of this beartrap on the back. The page is gone but I grabbed the pictures a few days ago. When i get around to putting them in the bucket I'll send them to ya.

Someone here asked if they could add a post with the different SAW traps. I said no.
Kinda like the ground up glass blinding powder...these are not things you can 'play' with.
As someone who had to grow up with abuse I have Zero tolerence for torture 'entertainment'.

OI Vey!! Thanks for the pic, that looks nasty...
I really should see them guldarn SAW movies... Just not enough hours in the day...

Found this

BillSykes

and this

BillSykes

Yep...I've held that in my hand wondering if I was going to buy it.
They have it at the DVD store I go to, was going to go there today.
They have both figures, pighead and normal.
I know he's got the SAW Gauntlet Stiletto...but I don't know if I'm going to buy it or not.

FUCK I know I'm going to...I look at it every time ai go in there to see if it's marked down....I'll probaly get it...

Put him next to my Altair, Kroenen, and Blade (Puppet Masters)......


Sigh...I'll post a pic of them all soon...I know I'm going to end up buying it....

@Billsykes
Niiice find man... I'm guessing i'm not gonna get why there is a pighead version until I watch the movies, so I won't ask... :)

@Sinza
Did you say you have the Blade puppet from the Puppetmaster? Sweet!!! He's like my favorite of them all!! Followed by Torch and SixShooter... I should have figured someone would have made real ones, just never saw them around anywhere...

Yeah...had him for years. I meet a gal who made custom dolls once and I was going to have her make one for me, this was back when the movies were new. Lost contact with her and it never happened...about 15 years later they came out with action fgures.
He's a little smaller than he is in the movie, but at least I have one. He's usually hanging by his hook somewhere in my place..he moves around a lot. :)

hmmm sinz dude can you get me a pic of that in the movie as clear as poss i might be able to make one and send over to yawith a personal fan mail letter from moz LOL only joking but yeah i might be able to make one but obv due to postal risks you would have to make the hook and blade ... just cant risk anything these days, me lol

ROFL!!...

NIIICEEE...!!

OK, so they wussed out on the blade and the hook... And there are supposed to be daggers in his eyes... But i guess they were trying to stay on the safe side... Still all kinds of cool!!!

Must be cool to walk in and to see him hanging from a bookshelf by his hook... LOL
Thanks for posting!!!!

agreed phyre!

AHHHH YES!!!!!

Finally!!! I've been waiting over a year for this. Ever since Phyreblade showed me that first picture I knew I had to have one.
Damn...I think that was one of the first post on this forum.

BITCHES!!!!! In my fucking hands!!!!


O.k.......here's the low down..... Bad Ass Fucking Cool!!!

Took me whole 30 seconds to take it from 'fixed blade' to 'spring activated'.
I knew it when I first saw the pictures...it looked like it was all there, looked like it would work without changing too much.
That's why it was so easy for me to build one.

It's got a great snap to it!!! CA CHINK!!!! Kick ass!!! Aluminum blade...who cares? I'm not going to do more than play with it.
I'll say this....the 'bracer' or whatever they call it is just worthless crap. Cheap thin plastic and foam. Took only five minutes for it to get a crack at one of the mounts. I can see I'll have to fabricate a new armband for this. You can't even really strap it on. The strap is WAY too big and cheap elastic/velcro. I'm thinking leather and steel!

Here it is...comes in a box that is nice and red 'velvet' lined....but the support that holds the blade was already breaking when I opened it. Cheap pressboard...I may have to re-make parts of this too if I want it to be strong.

See that bolt? Take it off and it's rock n roll!!! I was in such a hurry I didn't take a picture of it in place....but you get the point.


Here's the front in the open position.


And the back end. So simple yet so beautiful....


The front....You can see how the springs are attached. Fairly simple. And the back underneath. How it's all held together.


Here's the front lever pivot, the one part one this that's welded. They put a nice little ramp at the back to make setting the hook easier.



Let me know if you have any questions.
All I can say is this....both this 'SAW Gauntlet Stiletto' and the 'Assassin Extension Knife' were about $150.
Well worth it. If you guys want armblade...buy these WHILE YOU CAN. Next year they might all be gone!!

Kick Ass ::

Sweet SINZA I'm glad you got your hands on one. Nice video review.

looks great !

SWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTT
BRO!!!

I would love to do Karate in the garage with that!

reference to Step Brothers... saw the movie last night its great

it was really that easy to mod it...really! its like they almost did it on purpose.

At the risk of sounding redundant...

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man... That is cool... Love the single screw safety... ROFL... My kind of designers...

Yes...it is a thing of beauty.


Yes. It really was that easy to modify. It's just one bolt that makes it a fixed blade.

You all know what this means?!?!?!?!

Something I have thought about from the time I first saw this....

Spring loaded bladed weapons/toys can be made, sold, and shipped through the mail TOTALLY LEGAL if you just put in one bolt to fix the blade in the open position and call it a 'fixed blade' design.
Then, just like me, the people who buy it can just take off the restraining bolt and you're good to go automatic style.

That changes a lot.

That means that you or me could make armblades and sell them and not have to worry about it.......nice

Spring loaded bladed weapons/toys can be made, sold, and shipped through the mail TOTALLY LEGAL if you just put in one bolt to fix the blade in the open position and call it a 'fixed blade'

yep, perfectly legal.

Until the first time some idiot takes out the screw, sharpens the blade, and goes out to recreate his favorite movie scene.

Sorry to rain on your parade, really. But I just don't think it'll be long before the lawyers and the politicians make this illegal to.

I hate people like that. (lawyers and politicians and the idiots that make them necessary.)


P.S.

No offense meant if anyone here is a lawyer or politician, I know there are a few of them on the side of the angels.

You know Dach....

I disagree with you....but I really have no time or desire to argue with you.

AWE-FUCKIN-SOME Bruvz, l@@ks well worth the wait mate

P.S. its good to put a voice to the man that is Sinza

BillSykes

You know Dach....

I disagree with you....but I really have no time or desire to argue with you.

I hope you're right.

P.S.

its good to put a voice to the man that is Sinza

I was thinking the same thing.

back on topic

How stable is it? I don't mean the bracer on your arm, I mean the extended blade on the frame.

that is fucking sweet dude! Ur welcome for the find. now how can you get it to lock in the open position?

i ordered mine about a week ago. it should get here soon.

But Sinza, other that the crappy bracer, everything is pretty good? i mean, i can just replace the bracer with something else, right?

It's all good, but you have to remember that it's a display prop. Not made for any kind of real use.

What it's best for is a toy and a good model on how to start uilding someting better. But what a toy!!!

yeah that makes since

I hope i'm not about to revive an old topic, but i thought this would be the best place to ask.

I just got my Saw Gauntlet not too long ago and it seems that the back hinges with the hook that hold the blade into place don't hold still on the bars they are set on when you fire the blade. The worst part is that the gauntlet came this way and i'm not sure if it's meant to.

The fall off the back and at the moment the hook doesn't even lift when the hand trigger is pulled.

Has anyone else had a problem of this nature with this item and if so, how did you fix it?

Crazy_Blades wrote:I hope i'm not about to revive an old topic, but i thought this would be the best place to ask.

I just got my Saw Gauntlet not too long ago and it seems that the back hinges with the hook that hold the blade into place don't hold still on the bars they are set on when you fire the blade. The worst part is that the gauntlet came this way and i'm not sure if it's meant to.

The fall off the back and at the moment the hook doesn't even lift when the hand trigger is pulled.

Has anyone else had a problem of this nature with this item and if so, how did you fix it?

Do you mean the hook just rotates around the horizontal bar?

If so, then some JB Weld should fix that no problem. Just set it while its in the locked position to get a correct fit.

Get a Allen wrench and tighten down everything. Maybe a drop of glue to keep the hook in proper position before you tighten it down,
And you can't complain....it's supposed to be a fixed blade...remember. You're not even supposed to take that bolt off so it slides back.

Gotta remember people....IT"S NOT A WEAPON....IT'S A DISPLAY OBJECT. It's meant to look cool on the wall, and that's it.

Wasn't meant to be worn, played with, or brought into battle. It's only meant to be in the display box and be a cool item.

So...if it's falling apart...remember that it's not meant for playing....you'll loose parts.

Accept it for what it is...it's a display prop. Nothing else.
But it does give you a great example of WHAT TO BUILD and how to make it BETTER. ...hint hint.... ::

p.s. If you have any issues or problems let me know and we'll see what we can do. We'll make it work!

Apparently bud K is selling a functional saw wristblade.

http://budk.com/saw-gauntlet/p/14%20MC90503/c2p/hp/

It's $160. Where did you end up picking up yours?

All he's done is seen Sinza's vid an rather than tellin' whoever buys one "oh yeah, btw if you take out the centre retaining bolt an add a coupla springs you can have a "working" version of this prop".

NOOOOO what he's done has prolly started a law to make even props illegal now, wouldnt mind but he's only makin' an extra $10 or whatever so whats the fuckin point in advertising it and attracting such unwanted attention from the authorities?

Is it me or is that as sensible as a Gunsmith sellin AKs converted to FA to a Civillian where they are mostly outlawed?

YES they can be converted but coz of the Legality you wouldnt risk your livelyhood over one.....would you?

NO, what you would do if you felt like "enlightening" the buyer (an obviously credited him/her with the Savvy to undertake the conversion) you would simply "advise" them on how to do so, NOT get your own hands dirty!

Sinza arse is covered because he is not a seller/manufacturer of these items, simply someone who purchased one an decided to tinker with it, then present a detailed presentation showing how easy it was to convert, oh an what an arse the Law is too!


Ohhhhh praps im bein a bit OTT but thing is i love this place an you Guys an the last thing i'd want to see would be this forum locked an us Mods in trouble for runnin an Academic Network, which is basically what it is, for our appreciation of Exotic Automatic Wrist Weaponry (there prolly not clued up enuff yet to know the correct term )

Dont get me wrong i aint sweatin, i dont have nuffin dodgy around me these days, its too risky, i might buy a few vintage knives every now an then, but when i get "bored" with them i send them on to a collector Pal o'mine to lock away for a Decade or two, best way these days, ''specially in the UK at the minute with all the knife crime from the youngsters!

Billy's right....budk is just trying to add to the 'cool factor' of the prop by saying its functional, but what a dumbass way to do it. they have been around a long time and should understand that this could cause issues...but lets hope not.

Yes. It really was that easy to modify. eddie It's just one bolt that makes it a fixed blade.

You all know what this means?!?!?!?! dunno

Something I have thought about from the time I first saw this....

Spring loaded bladed weapons/toys can be made, sold, and shipped through the mail TOTALLY LEGAL if you just put in one bolt to fix the blade in the open position and call it a 'fixed blade' design. cheers cheers cheers
Then, just like me, the people who buy it can just take off the restraining bolt and you're good to go automatic style. thumb up

That changes a lot.

That means that you or me could make armblades and sell them and not have to worry about it.......nice

Wait.. so would that mean I could just put a bolt in a hidden blade and put a screw or bolt in it when not using it? lmao It would be funny as hell if that would make it legal to carry lolol. I guess it probably isn't but if it is I'd love to know xD.