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PostSubject: The cost of using a blade    February 10th 2011, 4:33 pm

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The cost of using a blade

From: Marc MacYoung

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003

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> What do you mean by gray area? Are you stuck? Are you in the place that you are not supposed to be? >Or your ego makes you want to stay?

*sigh* Here is where I put on my other moderator hat. The one that allows me to see both sides. Let me start out by saying as Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young said it in "Teach Your Children Well"

Teach your children well
Their father's hell did slowly go by

And you, of tender years
Don't know the fears that your elders grew by

A) ******, he doesn't know what hell lies on the other side of a knife. B) (Kid who had posted) as a civilian, there is a legal hell you will probably go through, but...even if it is a "cleanest of the clean" self-defense application...there is another hell that awaits you. A hell that is made worse if it wasn't a 100% clean. That is to say that you allowed pride, anger or ego put you into a place where you seriously hurt or killed another human being.

This "experience" stays with you for your entire life. And when you are young or when it is sort of fresh, you can push it down and lock it away (too fresh and, no. Years later, no. It will always come back to haunt you. But three months afterward -- when you think you got it handled -- yes. Ah the confidence of inexperience). The thing is, it never goes away. You may have a large locked door in your psyche where you think you have safely locked it away , but the thing burrows out and disguises itself as it runs through your mind/life and plays hob with all kinds of other things.

It will affect you in all kinds of ways. It depends on who you are, but one thing is for sure, it will be in your "unconscious basement" and fuck with various systems (plumbing, electric, structural support, foundations, etc). And a lot of times in the calm of the night, or when you are too tired to keep the restraints on the door, it will pick the lock and creep upstairs to smash shit and jump on you as you are sleeping. And all of a sudden, you are right back there again; reliving that moment and the horror. Think Amityville Horror, but the "house" is your mind and the demon is attacking it too.

It doesn't go away...and it is very, very real.

As Barry Eisler recommended The Gift of Fear, I recommend Dave Grossman's On Killing. In it, he talks about the resistance to kill anyway and resistances about killing at different ranges. Knife work...well...let's just say, it's too fuckin' close. The resistances get stronger the closer you get. And that is the case for many, many reasons. I tell you what, even if you don't believe in it, it's like being at ground zero of a bad juju explosion. You may not even know that you have a psychic basement, but, after that kind of situation, the lock on the door to it has been picked and, guess what? Amityville Horror time.

Why do you think so many criminals burn out? Do you have any idea how hard it is to keep those doors locked and barricaded with a constant supply of self-rationalization and self-justification for what they did? When you get tired of doing that, you dope yourself. You keep on stacking shit to numb it and give yourself freedom from the pressure. You don't allow yourself to see the source of the problem until you either fall into addiction, burn out or are shuffled off into the corner and viewed as some dangerous wierdo by normal society.

And, yes, there are true sociopaths /psychopaths who don't feel this stuff...but statistically speaking, they are incredibly rare, even in "The Life." Most crims end up wrecked, warehoused, burned out, addicted or dead. And if this stuff can do it to them, what is it going to do to a normal person? Someone who doesn't have the egomania of a criminal?

I must admit, I have a serious problem with the current "knife fighting" trend...especially when it is these cyber-studs who roam the Internet and go to these stud-ly, knife fighting seminars where they practice committing mayhem on their fellow beings. I've watched tapes, and I've listened to what a lot of people promote as "knife use." Quite honestly, what too many instructors are saying will either get their students killed or thrown in prison. Killed, because if you are in a situation where you are legally justified in using a knife, then that move had better have a block inherent in it because something lethal is heading your way. In prison because they teach the guys to attack with a blade sans that kind of threat. That makes it murder or at the very least manslaughter, neither of which are justifiable or legal.

Even if the "knife fighter" doesn't go to prison, do you have any idea what that is going to do to his psyche? I'm not even talking legal here, some part of him will know what he did was not justified.

Also referring back to Grossman, violence is THE most "toxic environment" known to mankind. Now a lot of people, can get away with it because they are the ones committing the violence. But, in truth, it fucks everyone else up, some more, some less. Head-to-head violence, however, really fucks up everyone because you are both the offender and the victim. With this dual citizenship, you can't hide in either convenient definition.

And quite honestly, I suspect the awareness of this dual citizenship is one of the reasons many crims will avoid attacking someone who is calmly prepared to do what is necessary to survive. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it is over and above the "he might get killed messing with the wrong dude" fear/deterrent.

(Kid who had posted), the incident that you had was a mild taste of the hell that is out there. A situation occurred where the door was cracked open just a bit. And it is not uncommon to be scared shitless when you get a peek. But one of the most important things to do is NOT to let fear/ego/ emotion put you into a situation where you are likely to throw the door wide open and jump in.

Putting it bluntly, that is a what a whole lot of the knife info that I've seen taught is assisting people to do. Despite their huffing and puffing about what bad asses they are, all they are focusing on is their fear of the event. They don't pay enough attention to legal, moral and psychological issues that result from knife use. But from where the person is, it looks like he is taking steps to close that door. They're really convinced they're taking care of the problem. In fact, they are opening the door still wider. And, worse, setting themselves up to fling it wide open and dive through.

This is why establishing withdraw/evasion protocols is so important. It keeps you away from that door. No, it is not as emotionally gratifying or ego massaging as carrying a weapon and telling yourself "If I ever had to use it I'd...." but it is far, far safer on many, many levels. Your emotions can hijack you (read, Daniel Goleman's: Emotional Intelligence). What's worse is that they can set you up to catapult you into hell. If you just think carrying a knife and asking the list "would I be legally justified in doing this?" is enough then you are not seeing the full scope of the problem. The fear arising from that quick peek into hell is guiding you, not calm, rational, critical thinking.

Now on any other forum, you would have been bombarded with "Ook, Ook, slobber drool, see how big my dick is" responses. What I want you to see is the fact that you're getting solid, dependable advice about getting information from a credible source about the legalities of use of force. You're getting damn good advice on awareness and strategies to create a buffer between you and the criminals. As well as creating a rational, reasonable set of standards and behavioral track record (I did A, he did B) -- that you can articulate to the police and DA -- about what
1) you did to avoid it,
2) what he did that told you it wasn't "innocent" and
3) why it was necessary to do what you did. And on top of this, you are getting a better understanding of the hell that lies in wait on the other side of the door. Once you understand that, all this other non-macho, practical, rational stuff is way more appealing because it keeps you out of that hell.

For the record, (Kid who had posted) is one of the people on this list who knows what it means to use a knife on another human being. He knows the demon that I talk of here, as do others. Talk to them and see what this demon has done to them. And heed their warnings: Don't let fear, emotion or pride cast you into hell by learning only enough about this subject to calm your immediate fear. The truth is, it will never work.

The door is still cracked and despite all of their blustering and posing when you go to these knife fighting forums, populated by ultimate cyber warriors...they stink of fear. They have never taken the rational, logical steps to close the door. Fortunately for most of them, they don't live lifestyles where they really would have to use this stuff, but they still have become fixated on it. Never there, but never able to let it go. The only reason that door stays cracked open is that they keep it open. Never able to fully close it, but never brave enough to go through it either. And forever dismissing, deriding or just never getting around to coughing up the cash for any information that would bring it out of their fantasy and into reality.

Don't fall into that trap. Because if you think a peek of hell is bad, wait until you end up getting catapulted there because you were lingering by the door, peeking in. Either close the door or go in fully prepared.

Marc


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That's what I told this young man.

For people who want to learn knife fighting in order to "defend themselves," think long and hard on this post. It deals with the realities of using a knife on another human being. Before you've gone there, all sorts of things look more important. Once you've gone through that door, they are shown as nothing but silly pride and baseless fears. That's because what's on the other side of the door is far, far worse. Unfortunately, I speak from experience on this issue, and I would not wish this hell on anyone. Don't go through that door.

Although I am talking rather poetically in this post, there is a serious psychological basis to the subject. It addresses post traumatic stress disorder, post traumatic event disorder, legal, criminology, social and ethical issues that lead to all kinds of problems. The long-term ramifications of these issues are seldom addressed by martial arts or reality-based combat proponents. Although they are not part of the fantasy of violence, they are very much the reality of the aftermath of violence.

Oh, for the cyber studs who will read this page and go off and rip me apart on their ultimate combat forums...well, Eric Hoffer said it best: Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.

Grow up, boy, this is real life we are talking about. And that goes beyond your fears, pride and fantasies. It involves people's lives and complicated adult issues. You aren't the first one to go down that road, and some of us have gone even farther. Do yourself a favor and don't scoff at the stories of trouble coming your way from further up the road. If you don't have the wisdom to do that, at least have the good manners NOT to lie to younger more inexperienced people than yourself about what it takes to be on this road.

'Cause you ain't made the trip yet...and we both know it.

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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 12:17 am

Holy shit... Sinza, what was that?

I mean.. That launched me into some serious deep thinking.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 1:38 pm

I'd like to see what that person was responding to, to get a better idea for the context.

Even as is, it's a good thing to have here to bring up the moral, ethical, and legal issues with use of deadly force against someone. Part of why I want to do some training at Front Sight in defensive handgun is because they address these things in a way that gives a better respect for weaponry and gives a better idea of the ramifications of use of force, regardless of the weapon used.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 2:02 pm

A large part of carrying a weapon is having the strength NOT to use it. Another part is having the confidence to use it when necessary. And the last part is having the mental fortitude to brace yourself for the fallout. If you use it, then you deal with the "bad juju" and a trial possibly and all that shit. If you don't use it because the situation didn't warrant it, then you deal with feeling like a "whiny little bitch who didn't have the balls to stand up for himself".

Let me tell you now, if you don't have the strength to not pull a knife when someone gets in your face and walks all over you then you shouldn't have one. And if you do have that strength then you clearly have balls because that other douche still has a face attached to him.

No one is ever going to thank you for carrying a knife. No one is ever going to appreciate you getting involved in something to help them. Have you ever heard of a rescuing involving someone with a knife on the news? Never. There are stabbings, and there are knife fights, there is never a knife wielding good guy in the eyes of society.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 2:33 pm

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There are stabbings, and there are knife fights, there is never a knife wielding good guy in the eyes of society.

Sad but true.

Try this: Do a Google search on the words "Man with knife".

Story after story of guys with knives getting shot by police.

What bothers me is they all say the same (bullshit) story...."He refused to drop the weapon, he set himself in a offencive stance, and gave a 'serious' look to the officers".

The words may change, but the cops all say the same thing.

We just had a woodcarver shot and killed in Seattle FOR NO FUCKING REASON!
He was crossing the street, had a block of wood in his hands and a LEGAL folding pocket knife. He crossed the street in front of a police car, as this was shown on the police car video. He wasn't bothering anyone, wasn't doing ANYTHING. The officer got out of his car, and in the space of 4 SECONDS he quickly said 'Drop the knife!" 3 times then shot the man 4 times, dead.

4 seconds to death.

Witnesses say that he didn't hear the police, wasn't being threatening, was just walking.

The office changed his story once, then again. The story now is that when he yelled for the man to drop the knife the man turned, held the knife up in a threatening manner, gave the cop a 'evil glare', and fixed himself in a 'ready stance'.

All this in under 4 seconds....

The man was shot 4 times in his side...HE WAS NOT FACING THE OFFICER!

The knife was found and photographed for evidence IN A CLOSED POSITION.

Knife-makers have stated that this kind of lock, a liner lock, just does not close the knife by being dropped, doesn't work that way.

And you know what???

HAVING A KNIFE IS NOT A CRIME!!!

It was a legal knife, he wasn't breaking the law, wasn't brandishing the knife...the damn knife was found closed!

MANY witnesses have stated in court that this man was doing noting, and when the officer yelled to drop the knife the man didn't respond...as if he didn't hear him.

The man, John T. Williams liked to listen to music with headphones.

Look it up. Just do a search on "Seattle woodcarver shot".

The officer was found to NOT have probable reason for the shooting.But he still hasn't got in any 'trouble' for killing a man for no reason.

Be careful guys....for the police it's easier to just shoot you, they won't get in any trouble.

NEVER LET A COP SEE YOU WITH A KNIFE!!!

This is another reason I keep telling you guys to never wear a wristblade outside your house.

When the police yell "DROP THE WEAPON!", you can't...and they will kill you!
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 2:47 pm

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7a2_1295072805

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1292627716

Apparently He was deaf! Rolling Eyes Neutral

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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 2:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 2:54 pm

Whats that Homo-Erotic footie photo got to do with this thread Wolfie? scratch Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 2:55 pm

billsykes wrote:
Whats that Homo-Erotic footie photo got to do with this thread Wolfie? scratch Laughing

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Just saying, some accidents are complete bull shit and not accidental at all.
"I asked him to drop it multiple times, he was carving up that block."

Clearly a danger to everyone around him.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 3:08 pm

Ohhhhh okay mate! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    February 11th 2011, 8:28 pm

This is how quickly Police are to shot someone with a knife.....

BUT HE WASN'T DOING ANYTHING WRONG OR ILLEGAL!!!!!!!

4 seconds to Death!!



This is why I try to teach you guys.....I don't want you getting shot.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 9th 2011, 4:43 am

Superchickin86 wrote:
Holy shit... Sinza, what was that?

I mean.. That launched me into some serious deep thinking.
Like Superchickin said, powerful stuff. I don't think ANYONE understands how real it actually is except the victims.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 9th 2011, 4:09 pm

Ok, I have a hypothetical for you guys that is a sidebar to this topic about using a knife:

You get caught in a flash mob like the recent one at the Wisconsin State fair - 300 brutha's just kickin' the shit out of any whitey they see ... do you pull your blade and defend yourself or just take your beating and hope that they don't kick you to death while you are down?

My point is, there does come a time to defend yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 10th 2011, 1:13 am

Actually if it is one man vs 300 and your choices are run at them yelling "This is spartaaaaaa" waving a knife around, or doing something that doesn't guarantee that they will try to kill you like.... oh I don't know getting the fuck out of there and praying they have a short attention span and quickly switch targets. Then I would probably choose the latter. Obviously I would defend myself if I had to but to say you would defend yourself against a mob of people is a really bad idea. I mean unless you had one of these suckers:



In which case you could skip through there singing country tunes for all difference it would make. It's seriously good for about 50 people.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 10th 2011, 9:33 am

Yep, your first instinct should be to get the hell out of there and find a safe haven if one is available - not stand and fight a crowd of 300 or 50 for that matter. However, even if you try to stay out of sight while you are trying to find a safe place, you will inevitably get into some kind of scuffle. More than likely, you will need to shank a few to get to safety. Just do it quick and keep moving before anyone knows what you are doing. And never brandish a knife like you are going to scare anyone off. That will just draw a bigger crowd and ensure that it is used on you. Keep your blade hidden until the shank, then move out of the area as quickly as possible. That is the real reality of "knife fighting".
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 10th 2011, 7:09 pm

I'd like to be posted on the aftermath of the police homicide.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 23rd 2011, 4:13 am

San Francisco BART Police is credited with 2 murders in the last year or so.
One an unarmed man, Oscar Grant, and more recently a drunk homeless man, Charles Hill, in possession of a booze bottle and a knife.
Anonymous reportedly staged a mass protest in retaliation to these repeat offenses that seem to go unpunished ...at least in comparison to what I would expect a civilian to be subjected to in like circumstances. The issue in these cases is the police, armed with tazers, passed on the nonlethal alternative and shot these mentally I\'ll men.

What I don't get is how police seem to be held to a different standard. I can see how law enforcement is a high stress job but having twitchy-as-a-drug-addict on the other side of a shield going back to work with a slap seems shifty and unlawful. I'm curious if this Demon that haunts those that have been in this fight situations helps officers to never make this mistake again or if it makes them more on edge and likely to repeat the incident.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 23rd 2011, 8:27 am

That video made me glad I live where I do because my friends and I walk around with open knives all the time and the sheriff doesn't bother us at all he even showed off his knife one time.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 23rd 2011, 11:53 am

Anyone notice the one cop say "You did the right thing." ? About 4minutes 10 seconds in.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 23rd 2011, 12:21 pm

Sound to me like the cop was just being a dick...Did not identify and just kept saying "drop the knife"...I am sorry but if some asshole just starts yelling "drop the knife" I am going to turn around...So the lesson learned here is if some ass-hat starts yelling anything better listen or you will get shot....And the police wounder why people resent them so much... Arrrggggg
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 28th 2011, 12:28 am

Thank you, Sinza, for this safety post. It has given me much to ponder for the next few days, and likely the rest of my life as well. I am doubly glad I found this site now. I first came on for weapon schematics and ways to build things, but it also helps to read cautionary tales like this one and to see the legality of what I do and the impact I have on the world with my actions. Truly an eye opener. I had contemplated carrying a blade before, but now I will reconsider my reasoning.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    August 28th 2011, 5:45 am

For a update, the officer who shot the woodcarver FOR NO REASON had to quit the Seattle police force because he was going to be fired. He was found to NOT have probable cause to fire his weapon and KILL John Williams.

John T.Williams was NOT committing ANY crimes at the time he was killed. He was lawfully crossing a street and in his hand had a legal block of wood and a legal pocket knife and engaging in the act of walking freely down the streets on a sunny day carving a piece of wood into a Native American piece of art to be sold in many Seattle shops as he and his family members have done for many generations.


You have to understand this....

No matter WHAT you local laws are....

No matter WHAT you think is right or wrong....

No matter WHAT you think you are doing is just playing a game....

Having a knife is legal.

HAVING A POLICE OFFICER SEE YOU WITH A KNIFE IS A DEATH SENTENCE!

He can shoot you dead FOR NO REASON other than 'you had a knife' and the worst is he might loose his job.

By the way, the Police officer who shot John T. Williams can no longer work as a police officer in Washington state....but he is free to continue his career in any other state.

Be safe.
Never trust people who have POWER over you, power corrupts.

Remember..."the man turned, held the knife up in a threatening manner, gave the cop a 'evil glare', and fixed himself in a 'ready stance'."
This is a LIE told IN COURT under oath by a Police officer, someone who's life job is paid to uphold the laws of right and wrong.

What lie will be said over your dying body? SINZA







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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    September 19th 2011, 3:24 pm

This is an unfortunate truth in our socity today.
The police/da are gods.
the victom is guilty
and the crimnial can sue/charge you for defending yourself.
you hear it time and again in the headlines

"burgler sues woman aftter falling through skylight onto knife left on counter"
"martial arts instructor charged after defending famly from armed mugger"
"star coleget pitcher charged after injuring purse snatcher bu throwing rock"
"man sued after shooting burgler in his beadroom with a bow"

These are just a few "gists' that have stuck with me.
It never seams to change. To be responsable we are taught to be aware of our suroundings and be prepaired. We respect our freadoms, the law, and those who protect them be it LEOs or our Armed Forces. But nothing can truly prepair you for this.
We loose either way.
our freedom
our life
or
our soul

It take streingth of concience to stand down.
and as shown stupidity prevails
and good people will always lose out.

Thanks for the info Shinza
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    July 16th 2012, 6:37 pm

i realize it is not my place to really say, but i am a clinical sociopath. sure, we don't experience fear, or anger, or ego. i've killed things to try to understand the process of death, why it's so steeped in the psyche.
that does not mean that we know no boundaries. our representation is typically that of a monster, going about our day with people chained in our basements.
most of us would never act upon such an impulse.
to kill another human or other protected animal is to invite unwanted stress, attention, more likely to rally people against us.
violent offenders are typically not sociopaths like myself. and while i find myself with an affinity for blades, i would not turn one upon another, even under dire circumstances. i have much less lethal ways of dealing with an attacker, and will always resort to those. in the interest of self-preservation, i'm sure that those reading this thread ought to heed as much as they can of its content.
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    July 20th 2012, 5:39 pm

Necrophear wrote:
i realize it is not my place to really say, but i am a clinical sociopath. sure, we don't experience fear, or anger, or ego. i've killed things to try to understand the process of death, why it's so steeped in the psyche.
that does not mean that we know no boundaries. our representation is typically that of a monster, going about our day with people chained in our basements.
most of us would never act upon such an impulse.
to kill another human or other protected animal is to invite unwanted stress, attention, more likely to rally people against us.
violent offenders are typically not sociopaths like myself. and while i find myself with an affinity for blades, i would not turn one upon another, even under dire circumstances. i have much less lethal ways of dealing with an attacker, and will always resort to those. in the interest of self-preservation, i'm sure that those reading this thread ought to heed as much as they can of its content.

Well some people would just yell at you like "DUDE just NO, or The fuck dude?"
I'm not one of them. In some ways I can understand you, the laws will change in my country, so you can kill anyone who is treathening you in your house, and I wouldn't hesitate to kill a stranger if I knew that he is not as prepared as me.

I told my father to take me to France when I'm 18, because I want to try the foreign legion, He said okay I like your idea. They always ask why? I say for the money, but the truth is that I want to know how it feels to kill a person, the money is only second good thing in the army for me.

They ask if I fear death... I say no, In Hungary the economy is worse than in Greece, but hungarian people are like lambs who shut their mouth and keep living in a country where banks and corrupt politicians rule. I would prefer a fast death on the battlefield than a life like my parents and I have now for the rest of my life, its death, just slower, and more painful.
I'm in a great school I could go to university but I won't, why? Because: - In Hungary you can work in McDonalds with a gradutation MANY PEOPLE DO! and IF I could leave the country and find a job in England or America it would be the same... Go to work - Get married - Have some kids - Pay your taxes - Pay your bills - Watch your TV - Follow fashion - Act normal - Obey the law and repeat after me: I AM FREE would that be better? To do the same thin every day in a small office for a house in town and a week in Italy every day for a life?

But you gonna get killed! REALLY? whats with the guy SINZA showed us? He lost his life in 4 seconds and what did he do? NOTHING What did he have NOTHING just the same life as 70% of people have on Earth.

If I get into the legion I'll sign a 22 year contract, then I retire at 40, I'll be rich as hell sitting in a huge house with my money in bank getting even richer by sitting in my room even if I don't do anything. AND I'll have memories about 22 awesome years.
And just watch the lambs waiting to retire, working like robots, and watch them suffer.

Facts: Now my grandmother gets 100$ every months from the goverment, so she has to work and many retired person has to.
The banks rised the loans twice as big just because they lost 25% OF THEIR PROFIT making millions suffer just to fullfill their greedy evil souls. The things that Greece is crying about nowdays HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED HERE A YEAR AGO and nobody cares. And I could keep theese saying forever...

This will continue until someone says enough and revolution starts again. Many people will die that day, many innocents too, I won't be one of them...

The lambs will fight back, and a few man can start it all!

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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    July 21st 2012, 11:15 am

dude i like your idea on this, but one thing only hinders me from doing the same thing. my conscience.
yes, i would really like to know or to experience how to kill a person since i have all this hatred inside me.
i would love to hear more from you.

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this was for @Patika007
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PostSubject: Re: The cost of using a blade    July 21st 2012, 1:38 pm

Considence, everyone has it for example I can\'t harm any animal I don't know why, it really annoys me. But I have hatred and I learned how to make it grow bigger then considence.
If someone harms me or my family I store it in myself and I look forward to see the eyes of the first person I kill, see the life going out, then enjoy the silence. Silence in his body, heart not beating, lungs not breathing, brain not thinking, just silence.

People say that if you kill someone you loose a part of your soul.
The part I will lose will be the hatred, the chaos and all that will remain in its place is the silence.


You may think I'm a type of guy who goes into his school and kills 20 people with a stolen gun and then suicide, bot thoose are people CONTROLLED by the hatred, I CONTROL my hatred!

There are millions of people, who think like we do, but they just act normal until they find a way to release hatred, and that way is a way with stones red from the blood of innocent people. My way is a legal, pure and fast way to do it. The other man wants to kill you, and you have to kill or get killed.

I've had a lot of dreams, after I saw a topic with the "Stinger" a blade used by the army that spreads CO2 in the body after a stab. A dream about a mission, grabbing an enemy soldier, stabbing him and looking straight into his eyes until all life goes out of it.

I'll stop writing theese in here, because its OFF the topic, if you wanna hear more of my opinion make it a topic and ask me or PM me. (Got hatred? CONTROL IT! or somethin about joining the army Pros and Cons.)

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